Thursday, September 29, 2011
Lolita end Part I
Lolita: End of Part 1
“I insist upon proving that I am not, and never was, and never could have been, a brutal scoundrel. The gentle and dreamy regions through which I crept were the patrimonies of poets-not crime’s prowling ground. Had I reached my goal, my ecstasy would have been all softness, a case of internal combustion of which she would have hardly felt the heat, even if she were wide awake. But I still hoped she might gradually be engulfed in completeness of stupor that would allow me to taste more than a glimmer of her.” (131)
These lines show his desperate attempt at obtaining sympathy from his audience. He describes this inexcusable scenario to make it appear as if his advances were with good intentions. His self-delusion only succeeds in enforcing his unconvincing case. As a reader I still cannot sympathize with his argument. What he proposes as physically harmless may mentally be more troublesome when the child has matured and can look back at the experience with a better perspective. If his intentions were truly rooted in love and not lust one would think that he would wish for her complete awareness and consent.
The last line of this paragraph makes me question if he is not only using the sleeping pills to knock her out, but because this is the only way he could actually control her. She seems to hold power over him and he now can be the dominant force when she is drugged.
Q: Do you think that secretly Humbert wishes he could be this “brutal scoundrel” that would not have to drug his victims to exert his dominance?
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I felt this was relevant to us. :)
Wednesday, September 28, 2011
LOLITA end of part 1
I am still trying to pin down where exactly Humbert stands on the entire issue of his "nymphet love". It seems he is completely torn. He explains and revels in all the details of his sexual desires while at the same time admitting that its wrong and that he "tries" to be good. In the same breath he delights in but then condemns his own behavior. It is both heaven and hell for him, beastly and beautiful, and this passage so clearly displays the chaos and controversy that is going on inside his mind. He can't seem to reconcile his guilt with his passion and the reader can't tell which he has more of, shame or desire. We are left wondering if Humbert would even change this habit and get rid of these fantasies if given the option. Also, it is not clear whether or not all of the events that take place with Lolita actually happened as he says they do or if they take place inside his twisted mind. The line between Humbert's delusion and actual reality seems to have disappeared in some way. The way that Humbert writes in a very eloquent way, with elaborate detail and attempting to relate to the reader makes us want to believe the validity of the events that occur. However, we know that he is mentally unstable and all the details of his encounters that he describes could very well just be a part of his delusion and fantasy.
Q: How do you think Humbert would "fix" the "borderline". Do you think, if given the choice, Humbert would rid himself of his "nymphet love", his pedophilia? Do you think he in any way wishes he could be attracted to adult women over adolescents?
-Annie B
Lolita
This moment illustrates another boldly obvious strategy of Humbert to mask his innocence and victimize himself . He confidently describes himself as an "infinitely circumspect hero." The idea of Humbert considering himself a hero is simply appauling. Maybe he considers himself a heroine for being able to have cautiously come thus far, and discreetly not be suspected of his true intentions with Lolita. He never fails to remind us that he is merely a protector of her "purity."Humbert urges us not to skip these "essential pages, " because his aversion from his actual crime is not yet complete. Ironically, the pages following this quote portray Lo as the instigator of it all . He describes himself, " trembling in the forest of my own iniquity." In a simplified version, Humbert, is a trembling victim of his own wickedness. He seperates his evil deeds/thoughts/nymphile desires/fantasies as an entire entity of its own, and even victimizes himself from his own actions. Humbert clearly is on a mission to convince his jurors/audience that everything was forced upon him. In his eyes, fate and the sequence of events intertwined to fulfill his lustful nymphile hunger.
Q: Why would Humbert consider himself a hero ?
Lolita 24-end of part 1
Lolita Part 1 Ch 25-33
“My scheme was a marvel of primitive art: I would whizz over to Camp Q, tell Lolita her mother was about to undergo a major operation at an invented hospital, and then keep moving with my sleepy nymphet from inn to inn while her mother got better and better and finally died.” (106)
I think this illustrates one of two things: either a change in the way Humbert manipulates people, or a trend that we have been unable to notice up to this point. His plan is to tell Lolita a complete lie and keep her away from Ramsdale, assumedly forever. He has obviously manipulated other people in this story, but this is the first time, I think, where he completely puts his whole situation on one lie, that if exposed seems like it could ruin everything for him. Later, as it turns out when he has to tell Lo the truth, this is not the case because, as Humbert points out, “she had absolutely nowhere else to go” (142). but it seems to be a lot riskier venture than anything else he’s done.
The other thing I mentioned could be the fact that he has been telling lies like this the entire time. We’re supposed to believe what he says, but with the story he came up with to tell Lolita about her mother, how do we know he hasn’t been making up entire sections of his story? He seems to have just given us another reason to distrust him, even more so than before.
Why does Humbert want to keep Lolita from returning to Ramsdale for her mother’s funeral, or for any reason, and why does he feel the need to hide how she died?
--John Schaefer
Tuesday, September 27, 2011
Lolita Ch 24-end of Part 1
This seems to be a critcal moment in Dolores's and Humbert's relationship. Previously Humbert envisioned Dolores as his ideal nymphet and how he would be able to manipulate her. However, reality is far different from his fantasies. In fact, Dolores is alot like her mother because Humbert believed he could manipulate her too. He believed he was so handsome and eloquent that they would be mere puppets, however that was not the case. In fact in their marriage, Charlotte actually seemed to be the one in control of Humbert. The same has occured with Dolores. Humbert pictured himself as a handsome man all women swoon over, yet Dolores explicitly calls him a "dirty, dirty old man" implying his ideas of his beauty are only in his fantasies. And his belief that he could manipulate Dolores failed as they had with Charlotte, in fact Dolores is in command. Humbert actually has to ask her if they can have sex and she can and has said no, showing he has so little control.
I think this is key evidence of how Humbert Humbert truly is. He says he is some eloquent hunk, but in actuallity he appears to be a sociopathic, manchild. He seems sociopathic because he shows the symptoms: manipulative behavior (which he has shown with his writing, though in actual practice he fails at most manipulation attempts; ie. the marriage, the pills, etc.) and his lack of empathy (which is obvious via his constant justification of his pedophilic actions and how he never shows an ounce of remorse, rather he seems more curious on manipulating things to fit his way). And he appears as a manchild because he has no actual job, he doesn't plan ahead (given he went into a marraige for access to a girl who will no longer be a nymphet in two years, which is short-sighted), he is incredibly submissive to any sort of authority (his wife dominated him, and even his step-daughter dominates him), and he throws tantrums when he doesn't get his way (he wants to kill his wife when she plans to send Dolores to boarding school and he bluntly tells Dolores her mother is dead when he can't easily control her). All of those qualities fit the definition of an immature, manchild.
How many see Humbert Humbert as a hysterical character with his mental arrogance, but with an outward childish behavior?
Lolita Ch. 11-24
I felt proud of myself. I had stolen the honey of a spasm without impairing the morals of a minor. Absolutely no harm done. The conjurer had poured milk, molasses, foaming champagne into a young lady's new white purse; and lo, the purse was intact. Thus had I delicately constructed my ignoble, ardent, sinful dream; and still Lolita was safe -- and I was safe. What I had madly possessed was not she, but my own creation, another, fanciful Lolita -- perhaps, more real than Lolita; overlapping, encasing her; floating between me and her, and having no will, no consciousness -- indeed, no life of her own. (62)
In this passage, Humbert Humbert justifies his abuse of Lolita by twisting both morality and language to suit his needs. Humbert is clearly an unreliable narrator – his masterful manipulation of words threatens to earn the sympathy of the audience and force them to question what is morally ‘right.’ Flowery language distracts the jury from the vulgarity of the matter at hand; Humbert uses euphemisms such as “the honey of a spasm” to describe his release and refers to himself as a “conjurer” who has skillfully preserved the “white purse” of Lolita’s innocence. The juxtaposition of a disgusting act with poetic language makes the reader uncomfortable - how can a description of something so immoral seem beautiful? Humbert is not only free of guilt after his encounter, but also proud of himself for taking advantage of Lolita’s innocence without her knowledge. He defends his violation of a young girl by separating this “creation” of his fantasy from Lolita herself. Since the imaginary girl whom he “madly possessed” had “no consciousness” and “no life,” Humbert reasons, his actions were harmless. His ‘what she doesn’t know won’t hurt her’ philosophy is flawed, however; this “fanciful Lolita” becomes real to Humbert, and the child herself becomes a mere blank slate upon which he paints his desires and ideals. As he sucks away her childhood and vigor. Humbert reincarnates his dead childhood love within Lolita’s empty shell. It is this contrived nypmhet with whom he falls so madly in love, not Lolita herself.
Q: Did you find yourself feeling sympathy rather than repulsion for Humbert at any point during the reading? If so, did this make you uncomfortable?
Lolita 11-24
Q: What has changed that no longer makes it decent to marry young girls?
Lolita ch 11-24
Throughout the novel prior to this passage, the story of obsession has reminded me of the Greek myth about Persephone and Hades. Hades, God of the Underworld, is usually depicted as an older man. Persephone, daughter of Demeter and goddess of spring bloom, is always seen as a young girl. Hades (Humbert) became obsessed with Persephone and plotted to kidnap her. He placed a single lily in her field to lure her into his rhelm. As she picked the lily, the ground split where she stood and Hades kidnapped her and made her his queen. It may be by coincedence, that in the novel, Lolita is introduced to Humbert alongside a garden of lilies. Demeter, distraught after the loss of her child, was forced to compromise with Hades that for 6 months (winter) she would reside in the underworld as his queen. However, the following 6 months (summer), Persephone belonged to Demeter. The selected passage shows that Humbert possessed Lolita as a creation in his twisted mind. The creation aquired no life of her own, resembling Persephone's time as the queen of the underworld. However, Humbert lost his queen when Lolita goes to summer camp on her mother's request. The passage shows how truely contorted Humbert's reasonings to his obsession is because through his thoughts and actions, he believes Lolita is far from harms way.
sorry for the super nerd response. Im an ancient civilizations major, its just what came to my mind.
Regardless of a moral standpoint, if a touch is simply a touch to a child but that same touch is a "possession" to the adult, is harm done?
Lolita Chapters 11-24
Monday, September 26, 2011
Lolita Ch. 11-24
“Then, with all possible caution, on a mental tiptoe so to speak, I conjured up Charlotte as a possible mate. By God, I could make myself bring her that economically halved grapefruit, that sugar-less breakfast.” (70)
Cami Morrow
Lolita Ch 11-24
This passage reveals the purpose of the novel, an attempt to prove that what he does is not wrong. He tries to say that the relations do not need to be sexual or "coital," which we know is a lie since he's already masterbated to Lolita's clothing. He tries to say how he is harmless or the acts are yet before he evaluated whether he ruined some girls with his thoughts because he wanted some effect on them. His entire plea that he sets up is ruined by the thoughts and actions he's published previously in the novel. But to me the kicker is the "colloquial" manner in which he describes the actions of sex offenders. It's as if he believes everyone else thinks in that rustic, more than likely Southern dialact, usually associated with hicks or uneducated individuals. In otherwords he sees himself as a poet, as he claims a bit later, and everyone else as inferior to him. This speal reveals him for what he is, an ego-manical, manipulative pervert.
Does he honestly believe his words will fool anyone?
Lolita CH 11-24
In this passage, Humbert Humbert is considering his options for the proposal from Charlotte Haze. He had just finished reading a letter from her admitting her love for him and giving him the option to stay and marry her or leave forever. This puts Humbert in a tough situation. If he leaves (because he obviously has no feelings whatsoever towards Charlotte), he will never again see his lovely Lolita. But if he stays and becomes Charlotte's husband, he can show affectionate love to Lolita every day. I think this passage shows the darkest side of Humbert's character. He's considering taking on a father-role, but yet planning on possibly slipping them both some sleeping medication so that he can molest an unconscious child. He doesn't even consider the damages that could be done in the long run to either one of them, especially Lolita because one day she could realize that how he had been treating her for years was perverse and out of character for a normal father figure. I find this passage to be extremely disturbing and I can only hope that men like Humbert Humbert take a step back and realize their how perverse their actions/thoughts really are.
Question- I believe Humbert's passion for Lolita is very conditional. It is so strong because of her sweet appearance and young age. In two years when Lolita is no longer a nymphet, would somebody with a character such as Humbert find himself regretful for agreeing to a marriage such as this one, or would they look back and be pleased with their decision?
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Thursday, September 22, 2011
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Tuesday, September 20, 2011
Brave New World
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"You mean, of her not dying?" (He nodded.) "No, of course there isn't. When somebody's sent here, there's no …" Startled by the expression of distress on his pale face, she suddenly broke off. "Why, whatever is the matter?" she asked. She was not accustomed to this kind of thing in visitors. (Not that there were many visitors anyhow: or any reason why there should be many visitors.) "You're not feeling ill, are you?" (181)
The first paragraph stands out because it resembles how a person dies the same way they are decanted. This room is much like the conditioning room with the rows of beds. However, I do not understand why there are so many accomodations for the dying. If everyone has beed conditioned to accept death without emotion or question, why put so much work into making it happier for the dying? I would have thought they would simply give them a few grammes of soma and let them drift to death. If they are attempting to make them comfortable with televisions and perfume, then they must understand that death is in fact not pleasant. Also, I found it ironic that ultimately, Linda suffered in her death, clenching her throat with terror in her eyes. On the reservation, the sacrificed boy accepted his death and while being beat, did not utter a sound. He appeared to have died an honorable death since John was jealous of him. On the contrary, Linda, back at home died a spectacle for 8 year old twins. I also thought it ironic how while on a soma holiday, she dreamt of the reservation. She had been begging to be back home for years and after returning, longed for Pope and the Savage world.
The motto that "everybody belongs to everybody" suggests that instead of one person loving you, everyone does. This is why it surprised me that there were absolutely no visitors. I understand that there are no emotions toward one another as to avoid heartbreak and grief but since there are friendships, I would assume there would be visitors. I guess this passage is why I wonder if Henry was dying would Lenina visit? If Lenina was dying would Fanny Crowne visit? If Bernard was dying, would Helmhotz visit?
Brave New World and Happiness
“Of course it does. Actual happiness always looks pretty squalid in comparison with the over-compensations for misery. And, of course, stability isn’t nearly so spectacular as instability. And being contented had none of the glamour of a good fight against misfortune, none of the picturesqueness of a struggle with temptation, or a fatal overthrow by passion or doubt. Happiness is never grand.” (227, Chapter 16)
The question of “what is happiness” if brought up many times throughout the novel. The Savage believes that happiness is not a chemically-induced joy brought about by soma, but that it is caused by meaningful experiences. Mond agrees that true happiness which can be felt deeply is enjoyable, but that it also comes with a price of feeling despair. To quote Alexander Dumas in The Count of Monte Cristo, “Only the man who has experienced extreme agony can experience true happiness.” Huxley, like Dumas, is saying that happiness is relative to all the other not so pleasant experiences in one’s life. Happiness is not quite so ‘grand’ for the citizens of World State because they have never been subjected to suffering. The “glamour of a good fight against misfortune” is instigated by the triumph of victory against misfortune. This new society chooses superficial happiness in order to forgo pain. The World State sacrifices the emotion of happiness for stability.
Is this world without pain or true happiness better than our world with suffering, passion and joy? What is the difference in the meaning of happiness between The Brave New World and reality?